Friday, February 12, 2010

Is it true that military officers can pull out their pistol and shoot insubordinate troops?

I heard that if you are a captain or colonel or something, and some private is misbehaving, you can take out your pistol and kill him. Is this true?Is it true that military officers can pull out their pistol and shoot insubordinate troops?
nope, not today. U can report him for court martial If necessary .. that's it.





but .. If this become at enemy territory , middle of something .. like under the live fire .. who knows?





Did u hear this term ';friendly fire'; ?? .. accidents can happen some times.





Let me explain that way .. when a combat start our guys never retreat without a clear order .. because If they keep deal with enemy maybe they can survive from that situation or maybe not .. but If they try to run .. they will shoot by a NCO ( not a officer ) without hesitation .. absolutely .. and they know that well.





And If a NCO blow up his ( a coward ) brain no one blames him for that .. a deserter doesn't deserve respect from others ; but file will close with a cover label .. MIA , KIA etc. for keep his families pride up.





edit : @ jopalucas : Simply B.S .. When we ';catch'; a sleepy beauty we will beat em , hardly ( yes, legal ) .. after enoughly beat they will never, ever sleep when guard something.





But blow his head for sleep? Isn't true ..why we do that? Extravagance Isn't accepteable at our Army ..





I'd said B.S for your story .. I know Isn't true ; because I serve Bosnia too ( ~ 2 year ) .. podrazumeti drugarica ? biti zdrav.Is it true that military officers can pull out their pistol and shoot insubordinate troops?
Nope they can't its even against all military protocol for an NCO to hit a private, they can beast them, run them ragged but they cannot lift their hand to a recruit unless its self defense. I can't remember the dudes name but he was a former Russian special ops airborne colonel and later became a well known Russian politician. One time he was in charge of regular airborne troops and some raw recruits were getting physically abused by the senior staff LT and upwards, once this colonel got wind of what was going on he lined up all his officers and one by one he clocked each officer squarely in the jaw knocking each one out. In the states its an automatic confinement to the stockade for even pointing an unloaded weapon at a private. So no, an officer cannot pull his weapon out and shoot an insubordinate for dissent even in wartime.
I know for a fact that Turkish officers have this ability. We had a Turkish Officer take out his pistol and unload it in the head of Turkish enlisted soldier for sleeping on watch. Didnt even wake him up first. This was in Bosnia, under the peacekeeping mission. Nothing was done about it, because Turkish officers have a quota of how many enlisted they can kill depending on the officer's rank.





If Turkey can do it, there are plenty more countries that are even more backwards that would probably find it acceptable.
No. He will be charged with murder. Insubordination is normally dealt with by the CO of the Unit,and may result in a fine or CB (confined to barracks). A Second offence may result in a spell in a military prison,a much larger fine,or a long period of CB,normally 28 days. It will also be reflected in the annual report which all soldiers are subject to,and may delay promotion ...In a battle situation,things are different. If the soldier becomes an immediate threat to the safety of the Unit,likely to result in the death of one or more soldiers of his/her own side he/she may be shot,if no other means of disablement is available,but only if the shot does not further compromise the safety of the Unit. An example would be breaking cover after being told not to do so,within close range of the enemy. The more usual option,if the soldier cannot otherwise be subdued, is an injection of a drug which will lay him/her out cold for several hours,and possibly evacuation from the battleground as a security measure. A report will be made of any action taken,and will be sent with despatches. A disiplinary hearing could be by court marshall and will result in much harsher punishment than insubordination within unit lines at home,and possible discharge with ignominy from the Army,which could make further employment difficult.Ignominy means really,really bad.
Certainly not true these days old chap, it took place in the first world war.


The last British officer to shoot one of his men, a tribal irregular was in South Yemen in the 1960's. Troops these days are too well disciplined and it doesn't look good in the papers.
Probably.


There are lots of things that are not legally changed, even though they are irrelevant or obviously not aloud.


Two examples are;


taxi`s must carry a bail of hay by law. From when they were horse-drawn.


It is still legal to shoot a Welsh-man on the green in Hereford on a Sunday. As long as you use a bow %26amp; arrow.
Not in the US and now, not in most countries. This was made famous by the Red Army (Russia) in WWII. Fleeing was a crime punishable by death. That is what made the famous quote: It took more courage for Russians to retreat than to move forward.
no...that is murder. if a person is threatening your (or an innocent persons) life, limb, or eyesight... then if you are legally allowed to carry a weapon you can shoot them to prevent the commission of, or stop, a crime.






Technically no. It does state you can't even slap a soldier, look at what happen to General G. S. Patton when he did it. You have to put them under arrest.
Yes, this is true. There are consequences however. The officer that fired the weapon will likely be tried for murder and sentenced to life without parole.
seriously think about your question, where is cold blooded murder legal? no where that's where so obviously the answer is No it's not true.
not in the US Military, maby back in Nazi Germany or in North Korea you can, but not here
not true... first of all because those insubordinate troops have rights also, and by doing that they violate them... so if an officer does that it is called murder...
No but you can exercise them to death.
of course it is but no officers dare do that since they know the rest of the enlisted troops would tear the officers apart.
Bang!


I had to shoot Private ZUME, he asked such a silly question.


Captain Pegasus
You can not be serious.....





What country are you talking about here?



Back in my day i shot over 3 insubordinate troops for burning down my house and killing my dog
No, it is not true. It is murder.
This is entertaining.
NO WAY, its murder and you can go on court marshall and get kicked out the army or jail for murder. where did you hear this
a popular urban myth!
yea its 100% true if you live the 20's
no but it should be allowed, we need some discipline around
I only wish.
Maybe in world war 1 or something...but not today...think about all the fuss that everyone would have to go through!
You read too many comics
Please.
Uh no.
no ********
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