Saturday, February 6, 2010

How can people say that evolution is true, and God is true all in the same breath?

Evolution is not compatible with creation.





For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.


Gal 5:17How can people say that evolution is true, and God is true all in the same breath?
I believe in God..


and think evolution is falseHow can people say that evolution is true, and God is true all in the same breath?
Evolution most certainly is compatible with creationism (not ';creation';)





That verse you posted doesn't really have any relevance to this topic, but whatever.





Macro and Micro-evolution, along with adaptation have happened, and do happen. One species becoming a different species, not so much.
How Evolution Differs from the Bible:





1. The Bible says God made the world and all things therein in six days. That these were six normal days by man's reasoning--24-hour days rather than 1,000-year or million-year days--is proven in Genesis chapter one by the repeated use of the phrase ';the evening and the morning were the first day.'; God would not have chosen this expression if He had not desired to communicate the idea of a normal day. Also, in Exodus, the Lord revealed that the days of creation were the same kind of days as those kept by the Israelites for sabbaths (Ex. 20:8-11; 31:16-17). Evolution, on the other hand, says the present world is the product of millions of years of evolutionary process.





2. The Bible says God made plants and animals in such a way that they are divided into distinct categories. The dividing lines between kinds of animals cannot be crossed. One kind cannot be successfully interbred with another. Fish cannot become birds; bats cannot become eagles; dogs cannot become cats. It is true that there can be crossing over and interbreeding within kinds--one type of dog can be bred with another type of dog. But the major kinds of animals cannot cross over into other kinds (Ge. 1:21,24,25). Evolution teaches that all animals grew from some type of common stock. One kind produced another kind. Fish became land animals; lands animals became birds; an animal became a man. This is directly opposed to the Bible. It is also contrary to the impassable gulf we observe existing today between animal species.





3. The Bible teaches that man is not an animal. Man is the only creature on earth made in God's image in order to have direct fellowship with God. Man did not grow out of the animal kingdom. He was created directly by God to rule over the creation and to walk and talk with God (Ge. 1:19-31). Man was man the very hour he was made by God (Ge. 2:7; 5:1-2). As soon as man was created, he had the ability to name all the animals of the world (Ge. 2:18-20). Man was never an unintelligent animal. Evolution, though, teaches that man arose from the animal kingdom, gradually becoming more and more intelligent, civilized, and self-conscious.





4. The Bible teaches that mankind was made perfect and rebelled against God. Ever since that day, the human race has been growing increasingly more perverse and corrupt. According to the Bible, man is not evolving, he is devolving (Ge. 1:26-31; 6:5-7; Ec. 7:29; 2 Ti. 3:13). Evolution teaches that the human race began as dumb animals and has been growing increasingly better and higher.





5. The Bible teaches that man was created intelligent and inventive. Adam's children, in the very first centuries after creation, knew how to make music, keep cattle, farm, and work with brass and iron (Ge. 4:1-4,16-22). Evolution says it took men thousands or millions of years to learn these things.





6. The Bible teaches that the origin of the world must be understood by faith because the process is no longer visible (He. 11:3). Evolutionists, though, are attempting to learn the process or origins through observing present conditions.





7. The Bible says divine interventions have altered the state of the world since creation (2 Pe. 3:3-4). Evolution assumes a process unaltered from without--a closed system.
Micro-evolution (or diversification, as I like to call it) is a science fact. That means that one kind of animal or plant can bring forth a different variation, as when people breed two breeds of dogs and come up with a new one, or they cross two kinds of plants and get a new stain.


You always get a new variety, but not a new kind.





Just because micro-evolution is true, it does not mean the other types of evolution are. Those are only theory and not science facts, and the Bible does say that they are wrong.
The Bible is useful as a guide to living a better life and improving your relationship with God. It is not a science book, nor was it meant to be one. The theory of evolution takes no position on whether there is a God who created the Universe; that is beyond the scope of the theory. It is therefore possible for people who do not take the Bible literally to believe that God created the Universe and let evolution take its course once life started on Earth.
Easy. Some of us understand that the Bible doesn't have to be read as 100% literal for it to contain God's truth.





The Book of Genesis makes the point that God created the universe and life. Science tells us that He did so through abiogenesis and evolution.





Donut Tim is right: magic does not exist, but omnipotence does.
The Earth is 4.6 billion years old, and that doesn't lessen God a bit. If species evolved and changed over that time, under God's eye, why would that be an issue?





Those who read Genesis as saying the earth is 6,000 years old are reading what is not there... the Bible is full of metaphor, and does anyone really think God has a ';day';, and that it would be 24 hours?





He is not tied to time (he created it), and there is plenty of conclusive evidence about the age of the Earth.


God made it all, and is sovereign over it, and sovereign over the process of Evolution.
Read This


http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1041…





And Consider this





Creation in the 21st Century “Caught in the Act”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOdByKKvV… (Part 1)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CQb7tS-E… (Part 2)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfN3UfoDZ… (Part 3)





Creation In The 21st Century -- From Where did these Layers ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZyoXQJ5A…





Creation in the 21st Century - Overwhelming Evidence 1 of 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o226umqLd…


Creation in the 21st Century - Overwhelming Evidence 2 of 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-4O7AOYL…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXLFFduC5…





Evolution: Against All Odds!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS9o9cbQD…





Creation In The 21st Century - Palace of Dinosaurs Part 2 (1 of 3)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeK239U2f…
The facts of evolution have irrefutable evidence to support it.





There is no evidence of any gods.





However the facts of evolution do not preclude any gods.
Not compatible with Creationism or a literal interpretation of Genesis. Perfectly compatible with a creator. The Theory of Evolution simply describes one of the mechanisms of the universe.
yeah your right, some mystical being that we never see or hear from made up by people thousands of years ago is defiantly not compatible with evidence
Of COURSE evolution is compatible with creation.
God created evolution.
it is a documented scientific undisputed fact that creationism is true,





25 Reasons to Doubt the Theory of Evolution





(With acknowledgement to Dr. Walt Brown, Center for Scientific)





1. It is an established scientific fact that life cannot originate from non-living matter (the Law of Biogenesis).





2. The chemical evolution of life is impossible. No scientist has ever advanced a testable procedure by which this could occur. The Miller-Urey experiment, still shown in many current textbooks, has been proven to be irrelevant.





3. Mendel's Laws of Genetics limit the variations in a species. Different combinations of genes are formed, but not different genes. Breeding experiments and common observations have also confirmed that genetic boundaries exist.





4. Acquired characteristics cannot be inherited. For example, the long necks of giraffes did not result from their ancestors stretching their necks to reach high leaves, nor does a man in a weight-lifting program pass his well-developed muscles on to his child. No mechanism exists whereby the altered behavior of an organism, in an attempt to adapt to its environment, will produce a genetic change in its offspring.





5. Genetic mutations have never made a creature more viable than its ancestors. Mutations are almost always harmful, and many are lethal. More than 90 years of fruit fly experiments, involving 3,000 successive generations, give absolutely no basis for believing that any natural or artificial process can cause an increase in complexity and viability.





';A mutation is a random change of a highly organized, reasonably smoothly functioning living body. A random change in the highly integrated system of chemical processes which constitute life is almost certain to impair it - just as the random interchange of connections in a television set is not likely to improve the picture.'; James F. Crow ( past Professor of Genetics, University of Wisconsin)





6. Natural selection (or ';survival of the fittest';) actually prevents evolutionary change, it does not encourage it. Since mutations almost always contribute to a decrease in viability (survivability), the mutated animal quickly becomes part of the food chain.





7. Mutations cannot produce complex organs such as the eye, the ear, or the brain, much less the intricacy of design found in microbiological organisms. These organs are not even imaginable, much less viable in a partially developed state. The principle of ';irreducible complexity'; demonstrates that a wide range of component parts and technologies must be simultaneously existent for these organs to function. In a partially developed state, they would become a liability to an organism, not an advantage. Moreover, most complex organs have interdependent relationships with other complex organs which enable proper functioning. These relationships must also be simultaneously existent.





8. The most complex phenomena known to science are found in living systems. Detailed studies of various animals have also revealed physical equipment and capabilities that cannot even be copied by the world's best designers using the most sophisticated technologies. Examples include the miniature and reliable sonar systems of dolphins, porpoises and whales; the frequency-modulated radar and discrimination system of bats; the aerodynamic capabilities and efficiency of the hummingbird; the control systems, internal ballistics and combustion chamber of the bombardier beetle; the precise and redundant navigational system of the arctic tern; and the self-repair capabilities of practically all forms of life. All evidence points to ';intelligent design,'; not random processes.





9. All living species are fully developed, and their organs are fully developed. There are no living lizards with scale-feathers, leg-wings, or 3-chambered hearts. If evolutionary processes were the norm, these intermediate forms of development should be observable throughout nature. Instead, they are non-existent.





10. All living creatures are divided into distinct types. There should be a myriad of transitional, un-classifiable creatures if evolution was the norm. There is no direct evidence that any major group of animals or plants arose from any other major group.





11. Created kind are only observed going into extinction, never coming into existence.





12. The fossil record contains no transitional forms of animals, only extinct forms. The fossil record has been studied so thoroughly that it is safe to conclude that the alleged ';gaps'; or ';missing links'; will never be found.





13. The so-called ';evolutionary tree'; has no trunk. In the earliest part of the fossil record (generally the Cambrian sedimentary layer), life appears suddenly, complex, diversified and fully developed.





14. Insects have no known evolutionary ancestors.





15. Many different forms of life are completely dependent upon each other (symbiotic relationships). Even members of the honeybee family, consisting of the q
Amen. Compromise is an exercise in mental illness.





Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.


James 4:7,8

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